A few weeks ago I asked if anyone could help with info where to find the GROTH turns counters that are used on most ARRL amplifier projects in the ARRL Handbooks over the years. I use them in a 12 years old amplifier with great satisfaction. When inquiring with ARLL they told me that Groth was out of business and the counters were no longer available. Here is the information I received from NI6T: The Groth counters are being turned out by Robert H. Bauman Sales Co., PO Box 122, Itasca, IL 60143. Bob Bauman, W9NZM is the owner and he makes them himself in a shed in the back yard. The phone number is (708) 773-0573. The 2" unit is $18.50 and the 3" unit is $19.50. Add $1.50 for a spinner knob, plus shipping. I've seen turns counters advertised at $70 a piece from an outfit in Nebraska... At S 18.50 or 19.50, these Groth counters are a steal! I have ordered the parts from Bob. He says there is a "waiting list", but he can produce them in a few weeks. No wonder at that price! Good luck with your amplifier projects! John, ON4UN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- john.devoldere@box.eunet.be Call us in all major 1995 contests: OT5T or ON4UN John Devoldere (ON4UN-AA4OI) POBOX 41 B-9000 Ghent (Belgium)